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		<title>By: Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Survey: What&#8217;s in your toolkit?</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Survey: What&#8217;s in your toolkit?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] S/N for discussions and an absolute ant-colony-on-LSD of third party apps from Hell, although it has it&#8217;s uses. God knows what will happen to Friendfeed now that FB has bought them. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the details, Pierre-Antoine. At least one DG seems to have realised that &quot;transparency will be imposed whether one likes it or not&quot;, so one might as well embrace it. 

Another relevant quote, this one from a recent FIR podcast: &quot;If you&#039;re going to be naked, you&#039;d better be buff!&quot; ;-)

More seriously, totally agree with the approach you outline re: community management and outreach to diverse online groups of interest. I wrote a somewhat tongue-in-cheek post about &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/06/29/vacancy-eu-online-community-manager/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EU community managers&lt;/a&gt; some time ago - how widespread within the Commission is the understanding of how beneficial such an approach might be these days? Are other DGs paying any attention?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the details, Pierre-Antoine. At least one DG seems to have realised that &#8220;transparency will be imposed whether one likes it or not&#8221;, so one might as well embrace it. </p>
<p>Another relevant quote, this one from a recent FIR podcast: &#8220;If you&#8217;re going to be naked, you&#8217;d better be buff!&#8221; <img src='http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More seriously, totally agree with the approach you outline re: community management and outreach to diverse online groups of interest. I wrote a somewhat tongue-in-cheek post about <a href="http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/06/29/vacancy-eu-online-community-manager/" rel="nofollow">EU community managers</a> some time ago &#8211; how widespread within the Commission is the understanding of how beneficial such an approach might be these days? Are other DGs paying any attention?</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[this is the second half of &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pierre-Antoine&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; comment, published on his behalf - Mathew]

&lt;b&gt;@Mathew&lt;/b&gt;
 
Indeed Mathew, this pilot experience should not be compared with the European Parliament Fan Page about the European elections, a campaign of much wider scope and audience, and coordinated with other media. One of the positive aspects of this experience is that we learned a lot about on online marketing and community management. 
 
And as you said, it&#039;s only the beginning of long journey into social media for us. In any case, it certainly paves the way for new types of profiles working in the EU institutions such as full time community managers. For the moment we don&#039;t see social media as a channel to communicate with the famous &quot;European citizen&quot; - Mr/Mrs everybody, but more like a channel that may allow us to engage and interact with particular segments of the public, building communities of interest, collecting feedback, offering opportunities to participate, etc.
 
&lt;b&gt;Some breaking news:&lt;/b&gt; We will be soon trying out internally Twitter, the famous microblogging tool, to cover an important event of the DG INFSO.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[this is the second half of <a href="http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms" rel="nofollow">Pierre-Antoine's</a> comment, published on his behalf - Mathew]</p>
<p><b>@Mathew</b></p>
<p>Indeed Mathew, this pilot experience should not be compared with the European Parliament Fan Page about the European elections, a campaign of much wider scope and audience, and coordinated with other media. One of the positive aspects of this experience is that we learned a lot about on online marketing and community management. </p>
<p>And as you said, it&#8217;s only the beginning of long journey into social media for us. In any case, it certainly paves the way for new types of profiles working in the EU institutions such as full time community managers. For the moment we don&#8217;t see social media as a channel to communicate with the famous &#8220;European citizen&#8221; &#8211; Mr/Mrs everybody, but more like a channel that may allow us to engage and interact with particular segments of the public, building communities of interest, collecting feedback, offering opportunities to participate, etc.</p>
<p><b>Some breaking news:</b> We will be soon trying out internally Twitter, the famous microblogging tool, to cover an important event of the DG INFSO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[this is the first half of a comment received by email from &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pierre-Antoine&lt;/a&gt;. I am publishing it on his behalf as he was unable to, possibly because the full comment was too long - Mathew]

&lt;b&gt;@interested user&lt;/b&gt;
 
Hi and welcome to the discussion board!
 
It&#039;s true that we first relayed our initiative among our own circles of colleagues and friends -  who are &quot;real&quot; people. Actually, that&#039;s the very nature of social-networking to begin with people you are mostly in contact with. But we did not limited our promotion strategy to the Brussels&#039; bubble, and we tried to reach out broader interested groups through modest promotions means with mitigated results. You can find the current demographic and geographic composition of our Fan base on Sea, Sun and SMS (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sea-Sun-and-SMS/112480538851). Have a look if you want to know more! ;-)
 
Our initial objective was much more modest than you might expect. Actually, we were trying to reach out to young (15 -34 years old) Europeans who are Facebook members interested in travelling and texting, and able to communicate in English. We were also trying to learn more about online communication via Web 2.0 platforms.
 
The target was set at 10,000 Fans. Indeed, it is not a very high standard. But it has to be pointed out that this was a pilot experience for the EU institutions, one of the first attempts  to run internally an online communication campaign based on a social-networking tool. More important, we used very limited human resources and  &quot;large&quot; 100€ budget ! This is not an excuse, but rather an expression of our learning context. We have learned a lot about social media, and we still have a lot more to learn.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[this is the first half of a comment received by email from <a href="http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms" rel="nofollow">Pierre-Antoine</a>. I am publishing it on his behalf as he was unable to, possibly because the full comment was too long - Mathew]</p>
<p><b>@interested user</b></p>
<p>Hi and welcome to the discussion board!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that we first relayed our initiative among our own circles of colleagues and friends &#8211;  who are &#8220;real&#8221; people. Actually, that&#8217;s the very nature of social-networking to begin with people you are mostly in contact with. But we did not limited our promotion strategy to the Brussels&#8217; bubble, and we tried to reach out broader interested groups through modest promotions means with mitigated results. You can find the current demographic and geographic composition of our Fan base on Sea, Sun and SMS (<a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sea-Sun-and-SMS/112480538851" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sea-Sun-and-SMS/112480538851</a>). Have a look if you want to know more! <img src='http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Our initial objective was much more modest than you might expect. Actually, we were trying to reach out to young (15 -34 years old) Europeans who are Facebook members interested in travelling and texting, and able to communicate in English. We were also trying to learn more about online communication via Web 2.0 platforms.</p>
<p>The target was set at 10,000 Fans. Indeed, it is not a very high standard. But it has to be pointed out that this was a pilot experience for the EU institutions, one of the first attempts  to run internally an online communication campaign based on a social-networking tool. More important, we used very limited human resources and  &#8220;large&#8221; 100€ budget ! This is not an excuse, but rather an expression of our learning context. We have learned a lot about social media, and we still have a lot more to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1000 users now? You&#039;re right - pretty poor by facebook standards.

But for a DG of the European Commission it&#039;s probably a high point. The European Parliament, of course, does better, but it&#039;s got a wider scope and (had) a massive election campaign, so it&#039;s not directly comparable. 

I really think you should see this as a pilot - the beginning of a journey by the EU institutions into social media, rather than the destination.

I quickly scanned the first 24 fans - only 2 were in Belgium, but most didn&#039;t say, so I&#039;ll see whether the people behind it at the Commission can shed any light on how many fans are their rellies in Brussels.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1000 users now? You&#8217;re right &#8211; pretty poor by facebook standards.</p>
<p>But for a DG of the European Commission it&#8217;s probably a high point. The European Parliament, of course, does better, but it&#8217;s got a wider scope and (had) a massive election campaign, so it&#8217;s not directly comparable. </p>
<p>I really think you should see this as a pilot &#8211; the beginning of a journey by the EU institutions into social media, rather than the destination.</p>
<p>I quickly scanned the first 24 fans &#8211; only 2 were in Belgium, but most didn&#8217;t say, so I&#8217;ll see whether the people behind it at the Commission can shed any light on how many fans are their rellies in Brussels.</p>
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		<title>By: interested user</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>interested user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the roaming campaign the EU did really something to the benfit of all citizens. Chapeau!

But setting up a facebook fan page and asking every Brussels colleague and their relatives to join the group is not about getting in touch with 450 millions. 

Have a more in-depth look into the 1000 fans of the group. You will quickly realise: they are indeed real people, but many, many of them live in Brussels or Belgium. What does it make you think of? Exactly!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the roaming campaign the EU did really something to the benfit of all citizens. Chapeau!</p>
<p>But setting up a facebook fan page and asking every Brussels colleague and their relatives to join the group is not about getting in touch with 450 millions. </p>
<p>Have a more in-depth look into the 1000 fans of the group. You will quickly realise: they are indeed real people, but many, many of them live in Brussels or Belgium. What does it make you think of? Exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recommendation watch: 1. Lisbon Council</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recommendation watch: 1. Lisbon Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which strikes a chord with me. I have already posted about how I was involved in a previous life in Reding&#8217;s roaming campaign, and saw firsthand the intense and positive interest generated by this piece of EU [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which strikes a chord with me. I have already posted about how I was involved in a previous life in Reding&#8217;s roaming campaign, and saw firsthand the intense and positive interest generated by this piece of EU [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre-Antoine</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre-Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mathew!

Great article. 

Indeed, this initiative is managed internally by a dynamic team of roaming enthusiasts (so, not only an intern...). ;-) 

One of the objective of this online project is to go beyond Europa.eu and thus reach a broader audience that we don&#039;t usually reach. 

We also strongly encourage everyone to spread the news for it&#039;s not that often that the European Commission goes... Web 2.0!

Become a Fan!
Join us on http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mathew!</p>
<p>Great article. </p>
<p>Indeed, this initiative is managed internally by a dynamic team of roaming enthusiasts (so, not only an intern&#8230;). <img src='http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>One of the objective of this online project is to go beyond Europa.eu and thus reach a broader audience that we don&#8217;t usually reach. </p>
<p>We also strongly encourage everyone to spread the news for it&#8217;s not that often that the European Commission goes&#8230; Web 2.0!</p>
<p>Become a Fan!<br />
Join us on <a href="http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/seasunsms</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can U hear me was launched around mid-May and has a grand total of 522 members.

Sun, Sea and SMS launched 2 days ago and already has 422.

One was launched as part of a EC-funded communications campaign, implemented by a PR company, with a vague remit. The other is more focused, and was set up by an intern at DG INFSO. 

Can you guess which is which? ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can U hear me was launched around mid-May and has a grand total of 522 members.</p>
<p>Sun, Sea and SMS launched 2 days ago and already has 422.</p>
<p>One was launched as part of a EC-funded communications campaign, implemented by a PR company, with a vague remit. The other is more focused, and was set up by an intern at DG INFSO. </p>
<p>Can you guess which is which? <img src='http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Barton-Smith</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2009/07/02/sea-sun-and-sms-infsos-new-roaming-facebook-fanpage/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Barton-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 417 members, and possibly most of them real people - not EU bots like yours truly automatically and dutifully becoming a fan of any site in this genre, this page is doing slightly better than its Can You Hear Me, Europe!? - is !? punctuation a trademark!? - counterpart (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=84442677504) was after the same amount of time.

But does anyone know why the page description is promoting  Jean Quatremer&#039;s take on the French results? Perhaps Mr Barroso should be told - ed.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 417 members, and possibly most of them real people &#8211; not EU bots like yours truly automatically and dutifully becoming a fan of any site in this genre, this page is doing slightly better than its Can You Hear Me, Europe!? &#8211; is !? punctuation a trademark!? &#8211; counterpart (<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=84442677504" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=84442677504</a>) was after the same amount of time.</p>
<p>But does anyone know why the page description is promoting  Jean Quatremer&#8217;s take on the French results? Perhaps Mr Barroso should be told &#8211; ed.</p>
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