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		<title>By: Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Brussels bubble may be growing, but it&#8217;s still a bubble</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Brussels bubble may be growing, but it&#8217;s still a bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 12:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A sort of virtual version of Brussels is emerging, projected into social media but unconnected to much else, where people meet online to continue their conversations from last night&#8217;s Place Luxembourg cocktail party. The Bubble even has its own hashtag: #bxlsbbl. And it&#8217;s not even one bubble, it&#8217;s a EurosplInternet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A sort of virtual version of Brussels is emerging, projected into social media but unconnected to much else, where people meet online to continue their conversations from last night&#8217;s Place Luxembourg cocktail party. The Bubble even has its own hashtag: #bxlsbbl. And it&#8217;s not even one bubble, it&#8217;s a EurosplInternet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bloggingportal2: What, Why, How &#8230; and When?</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Lowry&#8217;s Tagsmanian Devil &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bloggingportal2: What, Why, How &#8230; and When?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even today, most BP editors (including me) don&#8217;t well know the French bloggers in Paris considering BP&#8217;s evolution; few ever look at Blogactiv bloggers or the IABC&#8217;s web2 community; and - of course - this ignorance is all very mutual. This is today&#8217;s EurosplInternet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even today, most BP editors (including me) don&#8217;t well know the French bloggers in Paris considering BP&#8217;s evolution; few ever look at Blogactiv bloggers or the IABC&#8217;s web2 community; and &#8211; of course &#8211; this ignorance is all very mutual. This is today&#8217;s EurosplInternet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seb, thanks for dropping by, and for the pointer to Philip Pearson. Building those bridges is what I&#039;m trying to do here, but one feels a little like a Dutch boy with a finger in the dike. 

It&#039;s not helped that discussions of EU affairs are already massively splintered into 27+1 debates (there are 27 member states in the EU, speaking over 20 official languages plus plenty other ones). 

But there are some interesting things going on. Am currently having a &lt;a href=&quot;http://be-iabc.ning.com/forum/topics/crowdsourced-policy-advice&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conversation on IABC&lt;/a&gt; (one of the other platforms mentioned above) about crowdsourcing policy development, where an old friend pointed me to&lt;i&gt; &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.padgets.eu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Padgets&lt;/a&gt;, an EU-funded research project (in which Google is a partner) that is building &quot;a micro web application that combines a policy message with underlying group knowledge in social media (in the form of content and user activities) and interacts with end users in popular locations (such as social networks, blogs, forums, news sites, etc) in order to get and convey their input to policy makers.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

What do you think? Can a microweb application from a research project get the install base it needs to reach a tipping point, or is the history of this field littered with neat technologies which never did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seb, thanks for dropping by, and for the pointer to Philip Pearson. Building those bridges is what I&#8217;m trying to do here, but one feels a little like a Dutch boy with a finger in the dike. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not helped that discussions of EU affairs are already massively splintered into 27+1 debates (there are 27 member states in the EU, speaking over 20 official languages plus plenty other ones). </p>
<p>But there are some interesting things going on. Am currently having a <a href="http://be-iabc.ning.com/forum/topics/crowdsourced-policy-advice" rel="nofollow">conversation on IABC</a> (one of the other platforms mentioned above) about crowdsourcing policy development, where an old friend pointed me to<i> &#8220;<a href="http://www.padgets.eu/" rel="nofollow">Padgets</a>, an EU-funded research project (in which Google is a partner) that is building &#8220;a micro web application that combines a policy message with underlying group knowledge in social media (in the form of content and user activities) and interacts with end users in popular locations (such as social networks, blogs, forums, news sites, etc) in order to get and convey their input to policy makers.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>What do you think? Can a microweb application from a research project get the install base it needs to reach a tipping point, or is the history of this field littered with neat technologies which never did?</p>
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		<title>By: bloggingportal.eu Blog &#38; Support &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Week in Bloggingportal: March 15th &#8211; March 21st 2010</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>bloggingportal.eu Blog &#38; Support &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Week in Bloggingportal: March 15th &#8211; March 21st 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] en Blogs was chosen on Thursday because she nicely connects the Europe 2020 debate with Mathew&#8217;s discussion on the segregation of the different web 2.0 communities as well as La Oreja de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] en Blogs was chosen on Thursday because she nicely connects the Europe 2020 debate with Mathew&#8217;s discussion on the segregation of the different web 2.0 communities as well as La Oreja de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mabz</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>mabz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post! http://name.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post! <a href="http://name.com" rel="nofollow">http://name.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculously easy group-forming technology actually existed (and was used) for a brief time around 2003 thanks to the efforts of NZ hacker Philip Pearson. It was called the Internet Topic Exchange. 

I&#039;m still hopeful for  REGF tech to make a comeback in blogspace. Of course, it&#039;s a kind of culture that has to be instilled, but it can happen. We already see it in twitter with #hashtags, and in tools like SocialText and status.net . 

Don&#039;t despair though, even without REGF there are bridge-people in every community who eventually do the hard work of linking things up for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculously easy group-forming technology actually existed (and was used) for a brief time around 2003 thanks to the efforts of NZ hacker Philip Pearson. It was called the Internet Topic Exchange. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still hopeful for  REGF tech to make a comeback in blogspace. Of course, it&#8217;s a kind of culture that has to be instilled, but it can happen. We already see it in twitter with #hashtags, and in tools like SocialText and&nbsp;<a href="http://status.net" title="http://status. " target="_blank">status.net</a> . </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t despair though, even without REGF there are bridge-people in every community who eventually do the hard work of linking things up for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really shouldn&#039;t have included the SocialText video, because it&#039;s pretty much besides the point I was trying to make. 

You&#039;re right - people want to interact, have a conversation. It&#039;s our nature as social animals. 

But you downplay the importance of technology - the internet, and the software running on it, have been making it easier for people to have those conversations for 50 years, extending the reach of their conversations and allowing geography-less groups to form around topics.

This process may have accelerated since Mosaic 1.0, but it&#039;s far from over - it is &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; not &quot;ridiculously easy&quot; for groups to form in the wider Web (within platforms like Facebook it&#039;&#039;s a different matter, but FB is not the web). 

SocialText took the concept of easy group-forming and ran with it in one direction (internal comms). My point was simply that if this concept was taken in another direction, enabling ridiculously easy group-forming on the wider web, the European online public space could take a decent-sized step forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really shouldn&#8217;t have included the SocialText video, because it&#8217;s pretty much besides the point I was trying to make. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; people want to interact, have a conversation. It&#8217;s our nature as social animals. </p>
<p>But you downplay the importance of technology &#8211; the internet, and the software running on it, have been making it easier for people to have those conversations for 50 years, extending the reach of their conversations and allowing geography-less groups to form around topics.</p>
<p>This process may have accelerated since Mosaic 1.0, but it&#8217;s far from over &#8211; it is <i>still</i> not &#8220;ridiculously easy&#8221; for groups to form in the wider Web (within platforms like Facebook it&#8221;s a different matter, but FB is not the web). </p>
<p>SocialText took the concept of easy group-forming and ran with it in one direction (internal comms). My point was simply that if this concept was taken in another direction, enabling ridiculously easy group-forming on the wider web, the European online public space could take a decent-sized step forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Barton-Smith</title>
		<link>http://mathew.blogactiv.eu/2010/03/05/groups-in-eu-social-media-not-so-ridiculously-easy/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Barton-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attitudes not systems, get results. I&#039;d love to see something like SocialText in my place of work. However, given the poor track record of wikis, I fear the take-up would be slow. Platforms can support interaction between people - they can&#039;t create it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attitudes not systems, get results. I&#8217;d love to see something like SocialText in my place of work. However, given the poor track record of wikis, I fear the take-up would be slow. Platforms can support interaction between people &#8211; they can&#8217;t create it.</p>
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